Esther Schagen-van Luit (Microsoft): Security leadership requires courage and curiosity

Summary

Join hosts Jeroen Prinse and Irfaan Santoe in this episode of re:invent security as they sit down with Esther Schagen van Luit to explore what it truly means to be a Strategic CISO in today’s security landscape.

Esther is a well-known cybersecurity leader and advocate for Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. With years of experience advising and working alongside CISOs across various sectors, she brings a sharp, candid perspective on the disconnect between tactical security operations and the strategic needs of modern organizations.

In this episode, Esther unpacks: • The common traps that keep CISOs stuck in operational mode • What separates a strategic CISO from the rest—mindset, skillset, and influence • How organizational readiness (or lack thereof) impacts a CISO’s ability to lead at the strategic level • Why aligning security with digital transformation is non-negotiable • And how DEI plays a real role in shaping stronger, smarter security leadership

Esther doesn’t just talk about the role of the CISO—she challenges the assumptions around it. She shares what it takes to grow into strategic leadership, even in environments that aren’t quite ready for it, and why security professionals must be ready to challenge how value is measured and communicated.

Known for her clear thinking and no-nonsense delivery, Esther reminds us that strategy isn’t about sitting at the executive table—it’s about speaking the language of the business and helping shape its future.

Whether you’re a current CISO, an aspiring one, or someone who works closely with security leadership, this episode offers a grounded, honest look at the evolution of the role—and how to push it forward.